HISTORY
IN THE MAKING: 3RD SQUADRON 17TH AIR CAVALRY (VIETNAM)![]()
To see Some of your Troops History click on Icon's Below
The aviation troops originally used "B" and "C" model UH-1 hueys (some for troop carrying, some as gunships) and the OH-6 loach. Through the course of the war the hueys were replaced with "D" and "H" models, the gunships were replaced by the cobra, and the 6's were supplanted for a while by the OH-58 Kiowa.
A common mission was to have a loach low level through the trees and try to draw fire. When the loach scouts made contact they dropped a willy-pete and called up to their big bad A## brothers circling high overhead. Don't mess with little brother. These missions were known as "Pink Teams" or "Big Brother/Little Brother Teams." The aviation troops would also do combat insertions of combat troops, known as "Eagle Flights." The huey- gunships and cobras also provided close air support for ground troops. Many a ground troop in Vietnam cheered at the wop-wop sound of the Air Cav screaming in to their aid. Not quite a bugle call, but close enough.
Delta
Troop had a similar mission to the other 3/17th troops, gathering intelligence
about the AO, but used very different tactics. They were our ground troops and
got up close and personal with the enemy. They patrolled or set up listening
posts out in the bush or rode the roads of Vietnam in armed
"gun-jeeps" attempting to draw fire. Delta Troop often had its
troopers scattered throughout the 3/17th AO and assigned to numerous other units
who needed their special aero-scout skills. Delta Troop was highly mobile and
seldom stayed in any one place long enough to call it home.
Headquarters
Troop tried to coordinate and support all of its far-flung troops as best it
could. Their slicks often flew overhead of battles providing C&C, or at
other times serving as flare ships illuminating the battlefields. HHT also
provided the personnel, finance, medical, supply, and other necessary support
critical to a combat cavalry squadron.
Any
two troops of the 3/17th were rarely ever stationed at the same place at the
same time. All of the troops changed their locations at least a couple of times.
Some of the main places they stayed were Dian, Phu Loi, Tay Ninh, Cu Chi, and
Lai Khe. There were other places. Individual troopers from the squadron, like
RTO's, and scout squads from Delta Troop, could be found working for other units
throughout the 3/17th's AO.
The
3/17th did its job well in Vietnam. The squadron as a whole earned several unit
citations, as did the individual troops in the squadron. Many, many awards for
valor were earned by the individual troopers of the 3/17th. Their stories can be
found throughout the 3/17th Air Cav websites.
The
3/17th began redeploying in early 1972 as the American involvement in the war
wound down. The final remnants left for Schofield Barracks, Hawaii in April of
1972 to join the 25th Infantry Division. Troopers with more than 6 months left
on their tour were reassigned to other units throughout Vietnam. Many of our
aircraft went on to see more battles when they were adopted by other Army
aviation units still in Vietnam.
If you find the history of the 3/17th interesting be sure to visit the various 3/17th web pages where you will find extensive work has been done compiling that history. You'll find personal stories, documents, maps, and links to other resources to help you understand just what the 3/17th did in Vietnam, and maybe a better understanding of what you personally added to that endeavor.
Thanks to Mark Aaron of HHQ for this information above: http://home.swbell.net/markaaro/hht/history.htm
Headquarters Headquarters
http://home.swbell.net/markaaro/hht/history.htm
http://pages.prodigy.net/morrismiller/avet.html
Charlie Troop www.vhpamuseum.org/17thcav/3rdsquad/3rdsquadctroop.shtml
http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/7063/ http://www.lighthorseaircav.com/ba-ch-home.html
News
Nui
Ba Den and its importance to the 3rd of the 17th ACR -
12/03/2008
Here"s
a fascinating report from Ron Tinnel about Nui Ba Den and its importance to the
3rd of the 17th ACR. Thanks Ron - Nui Ba Den will continue to be on our minds.
1LT
Peter Dempsey
(Photo contributed by Ronald Tinnel)
View
from Tay Ninh East
(Photo taken in Sep 1968 contributed by Morris Miller)
Here"s
a fascinating report from Ron Tinnel about Nui Ba Den and its importance to the
3rd of the 17th ACR. Thanks Ron - Nui Ba Den will continue
to be on our minds.
"During
the Tet offensive on January 31, 1968, the VC began using Chinese built 122mm
rockets to attack
Nui
Ba Den stood alone in the middle of nowhere as if it was waiting for someone. At
the time we thought it was waiting for Redhorse. Nui Ba Den was located at
latitude 11°22"N and longitude 106°10"E, 11km northeast of Tay Ninh,
in the Phu Khuong District of Tay Ninh Province, and 106 km from Saigon. (It
will always be Saigon, many
Nui
Ba Den was a historical and beautiful site covering an area of more than 24
square km. Based on Vietnamese legend, Nui Ba Den was not waiting for Redhorse.
As one legend goes, Ba Den was to marry a soldier, but on her wedding day her
fiancé went to war and never returned. Ba Den waited, grieved and cried herself
to death and when she died she became the mountain. A Buddhist pagoda shrine was
built on the summit in memory of her faithfulness and devotion. After her death,
the Nguyen Dynasty ordered a mould of her to be cast in black bronze, which
started the legend of the
Before
Redhorse arrived there was a radio communication station and a Special Forces
camp on the summit of the mountain and a rock quarry at the bottom of the
mountain. The Vietnamese mountain people who had made their homes on the summit
had already been evacuated. All of their buildings had already been torn down,
including a small Buddhist shrine. The mountain people were not happy about
having to leave their homes. There was a large round rain pool,
shaped like a giant cone, on the east end of the lower part of the summit which
served as a water supply for the Vietnamese mountain people when they lived
there. The water was not safe to drink so Redhorse brought in drinking water for
Redhorse troopers by chopper.
The
plains around the base of the mountain were very flat for as far as the eye
could see. Banana trees covered the lower slopes. Past the lower slopes bamboo
and banyan trees were scattered here and there among the enormous granite
boulders. While Redhorse was at Tay Ninh, Redhorse frequently fought with the VC
for control over the sides of the mountain. Our troopers stationed on the summit
were not permitted to go down the mountain along the slopes because the mountain
had been heavily booby trapped starting approximately a hundred meters from the
summit. This was done by the Special Forces to serve as a first line of defense
against attack. One of the favorite tricks of the VC was to booby trap the
Nui
Ba Den was a VC headquarters used to plan attacks on
From
the Redhorse Tay Ninh Base Camp we used to enjoy watching bombers working the
slopes of Nui Ba Den. Many nights, we could see green tracers coming out of the
mountain toward our choppers and red tracers fired from our choppers back into
the mountain. At night it looked like we were fighting the mountain instead of
the VC.
During
heavy engagements, the Redhorse communications command net used during enemy
contact became heavily congested. Redhorse had to have communications;
therefore, the Redhorse Headquarters Troop manned a signal site, on top of Nui
Ba Den.
On
the night of 5/13/68, Nui Ba Den was attacked and over run by the VC. Including
Redhorse troopers, there was a total of approximately 100 Americans of various
units on Nui Ba Den that night. Our troopers reported there were approximately
30 members of the Special Forces, soldiers from the 25th Infantry
Division, and at least one Korean. The enemy attacked with RPGs, rockets,
mortars, and sappers. The VC broke through the perimeter and severely damaged
the Redhorse radio relay equipment. That night our troopers heard the VC
laughing and moving around in the compound, firing their AK-47s and shooting the
survivors. The killing continued until about dawn when Redhorse choppers arrived
to assess the damage and search for survivors. Copper-colored AK-47 shell
casings were found everywhere. Large piles of AK-47 shell casings were along the
trails and next to the pagoda.
A
warrior is only as great as the warrior's greatest enemy. The VC were the
greatest light infantry the world has ever known. The initial reports disclosed
the VC attack resulted in 1 U.S. MIA, 22
At
least one Redhorse Headquarters Troop trooper was recommended for the Silver
Star for bravery and valor during this engagement. The Redhorse trooper was
trapped with a SFC from another unit in the pagoda on the summit. During the VC
attack, the two of them maintained radio communications all night with Redhorse
gun ships saving many
Nui
Ba Den was closed as a
Nui
Ba Den will always be on my mind."
Contributed
by:
eMail: Captain Ronald Herman
Tinnel